You don’t have to be famous to be interesting. Everyone is interesting. Everyone has a story. I want to draw out the stories of ordinary people to highlight that fame isn’t what makes a person interesting—life is. Ordinary: regular people. Chaos: because that’s how life rolls, it seems. Stories that resonate, stories that inspire, stories of ordinary, as told by people of nearly any age, hosted by Heat and Rocket Kid. We have four threads in Ordinary Chaos: 1: Heat talks with a not-famous artist 2: Heat talks with a regular ol‘ not-famous person 3: Heat talks with Rocket Kid, her elementary-aged son 4: Rocket Kid talks with a guest Go to ordinarychaospodcast.com for links, show notes, and more.
Episodes
Wednesday Nov 30, 2022
S2E14: Natasha on coffee, chaos, and ripples
Wednesday Nov 30, 2022
Wednesday Nov 30, 2022
0:50 Natasha loves coffee
2:56 What would your younger self be surprised about your current self?
3:34 Do you want to talk about how you came to the US?
7:04 Have you been given a piece of advice that you’re really glad you didn’t follow?
8:26 Can you think of feedback you’ve been given that changed how you view yourself?
10:28 Is there something you wish people knew about you?
11:06 What’s your superpower?
13:00 If you had to be famous for something, what would it be?
14:45 Do you have a question for the next person?
15:11 If you could change one small thing about the world, what would it be? Or one small thing in your life that would have a large ripple effect going forward?
17:23 Natasha asks me questions!
17:30 What patterns do you see in interviewing people for the podcast?
19:48 Do you ever go back and do a deep dive with anyone?
Wednesday Oct 26, 2022
S2E13: Meghan talks about empathy and trauma
Wednesday Oct 26, 2022
Wednesday Oct 26, 2022
0:40 Meghan loves dogs
2:36 What would your younger self be surprised about your current self?
5:03 Over time, have you been given feedback that changed how you look at yourself?
10:12 Is there a piece of advice you’v ever been given that you’re so glad you didn’t follow it?
12:29 What’s your superpower?
18:21 What is something about you that you wish people knew?
19:27 If you had to be famous for something, what would you want to be famous for?
21:18 Is there a question you’d like me to ask the next person?
22:34 How do you take care of yourself and keep your joy when everything is pushing towards fear?
Wednesday Sep 28, 2022
S2E12: Dale writes and helps others write
Wednesday Sep 28, 2022
Wednesday Sep 28, 2022
0:56 How did you get started in writing?
5:35 Dale’s first novel
9:45 A fateful ferry ride…
15:16 A layoff and a call from a friend set the next move
21:03 I love that you just jumped in
28:22 “The one I knew I jumped into…”
33:13 Did you do your retreats during COVID?
35:40 People would rather be told what they’re doing right
40:10 In doing the same types of facilitating, how do you keep it fresh for yourself?
42:02 What’s your biggest frustration?
42:53 How do you decide what you’re going to charge?
45:32 Is there anything you wish people understood better about your work or what you do?
46:36 Where can people find your work?
Wednesday Aug 24, 2022
S2E11: Katherine on beauty in every day
Wednesday Aug 24, 2022
Wednesday Aug 24, 2022
Katherine talks about joy in herself, joy in the every day, joy in raising good kids
0:42 Katherine loves Moser crystal that was her mother’s
4:05 What would your younger self be surprised about your current self?
5:16 If you were going to be famous for something, what would it be?
6:40 What’s one thing you wish other people knew about you?
8:15 Is there a piece of advice you were given that you’re glad you didn’t follow?
11:02 Can you think of feedback you’ve been given, positive or negative, that affected how you view yourself?
13:27 What’s your superpower?
16:34 Do you have a question you’d like me to ask the next guest?
16:57 What’s the most fun thing you’ve done lately?
Wednesday Aug 03, 2022
S2E10: Rocket Kid on being a kid
Wednesday Aug 03, 2022
Wednesday Aug 03, 2022
0:40 Rocket Kid is back!
1:02 What is the best part of being a kid?
1:44 Can you be more specific?
2:20 Do you think that LEGO will stick with you through life?
3:35 Similarities in good and bad things in being a kid versus being an adult
6:13 “There was a cartoon I saw….”
7:06 Three cups of ordinary and a dash of chaos
8:52 Speaking of croutons…
10:08 How has your summer been going?
We recorded this over the summer, but he’s back in school now!
Wednesday Jun 22, 2022
S2E9: Carrie is a teacher, a mom, a weightlifter
Wednesday Jun 22, 2022
Wednesday Jun 22, 2022
0:43 Carrie loves Taylor Swift
2:19 What would your younger self be surprised about your current self?
3:13 Is there something you wish people knew about you?
7:28 Is there a piece of advice you were given that you’re glad you didn’t follow?
8:04 Is there feedback you’ve been given that’s changed how you view yourself?
9:57 If you had to be famous for something, what would it be?
12:59 What’s your superpower?
15:15 Do you have a question for the next guest?
15:38 What’s your favorite cookie?
Wednesday May 25, 2022
S2E8: Cheryl and Burst of Butterflies
Wednesday May 25, 2022
Wednesday May 25, 2022
0:56 Where did the idea come from?
2:13 What were the steps involved to turn it from an idea to an actual physical place I can walk into?
3:33 Where did the name come from?
4:36 Did any of you have business experience?
5:12 How did it grow?
6:12 How did you navigate the pandemic?
9:48 You had two locations and now have one….
11:01 With the worst of that behind us, do you have a vision moving forward or just keep plugging ahead for now?
11:40 In the time that I’ve been coming there, you’ve expanded what you offer as well.
13:36 Did you have any role models in this process?
14:39 What is a bump that you hit unexpectedly?
16:25 Has it been difficult working with your family?
17:26 How do you decide which materials to have available?
20:37 Do you have any advice for someone that has an idea not in motion yet?
22:01 Is there anything that I haven’t asked you that you wanted to talk about?
22:51 Where can people find you?
https://burstofbutterflies.com
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
S2E7 Trans miniseries: Jess
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
1:12 Jess loves comic books and the beach
7:12 I know there are a lot of horror stories, and I’m glad you’ve not experienced them, at least in this realm? Which leads to a conversation about surgeries.
11:18 It sounds like it’s a series of where the line is, or deciding what’s worth the cost (in time, discomfort, cost, etc.)
13:17 How did you become aware that you weren’t who you wanted or needed to be?
18:33 Because coming out is a decision that needs to constantly be made, how do you decide when, where, to whom?
24:02 Who was the first person you told?
32:35 You said that folks had a lot of questions. Is there a question that you’re just tired of getting?
51:39 Do you think your experience of being trans would be different if our culture wasn’t so gendered?
53:13 Has the way the world interacts with you changed since you transitioned?
58:32 What’s something that cis people take for granted?
1:01:28 Where did you learn to do makeup?
1:04:30 How has going from a heterosexual marriage to a homosexual marriage affected…anything?
1:06:07 Do you have any advice for a trans person contemplating transitioning?
1:14:47 If you had to be famous for something, what would it be?
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
S2E6 Trans miniseries: Jayden
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
1:12 Jayden loves Star Wars
1:45 What would your younger self be surprised about your current self?
2:42 The person I taught presented female and the person I’m talking to is not, so when and how did you know that was you?
4:27 Who was the first person you told?
4:59 How did coming out to your family and/or your girlfriend go?
7:15 How did you choose your name?
8:24 Was there a moment that you looked in the mirror and were like, “Ahhhhhh”?
9:20 How is it different moving through the world as a man instead of a woman?
11:53 As soon as you had a label and a framework for realizing you were trans, was the decision to transition immediate?
13:05 Speaking of surgeries, do you get a lot of questions about genitals and your sex life?
16:08 Coming out would need to be a decision to make every time you’re with new people. How do you decide who to tell and who not to tell?
17:55 Was there anything noteworthy about your relationship changing from a lesbian relationship to a heterosexual relationship?
19:01 What’s something that cis people take for granted?
21:21 How much of your life hasn’t changed at all?
24:15 Do you have any advice for a trans person who is contemplating transitioning?
26:59 If you had to be famous for something, what would it be?
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
S2E5 Trans miniseries: Macey
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
1:20 Macey loves people
1:56 What would your younger self be surprised about your current self?
2:42 What prompted you to transition in your 40s?
6:51 What was the first conversation you had with your wife like?
9:19 What was it like transitioning from a heterosexual marriage to a homosexual marriage?
11:22 I imagine that a lot of your life didn’t change at all…
15:03 Was there a moment you looked in the mirror and went, “Ahhhhhh”?
19:38 Your relationship with your wife was never in question. I’m extrapolating from that that your relationship with your son wasn’t either?
20:57 This pulls other people into the closet with you.
21:47 The two most important people, no problem. What about concentric circles outside of that?
36:25 Every time you meet a new person, there’s the coming out decision. How do you decide to whom, when, how?
40:01 You mentioned a story about a guy from Wyoming…
41:41 What do cis people take for granted?
42:55 Do you get a lot of questions about your genitals or your sex life?
43:50 How do you think this experience might be different if society was less gender-rigid?
48:39 Have you noticed any differences in how people interact with you as a female than as a male?
49:30 Do you expect the non-passableness to change?
51:33 What’s your experience with medical care?
53:01 Is there a question you’re tired of being asked?
54:19 How did you choose your name?
57:48 Do you have any advice for someone contemplating the switch?
59:26 Ending with a question from the Person Next Door series: if you had to be famous, what would it be for?
The YouTube link she references