
You don’t have to be famous to be interesting. Everyone is interesting. Everyone has a story. I want to draw out the stories of ordinary people to highlight that fame isn’t what makes a person interesting—life is. Ordinary: regular people. Chaos: because that’s how life rolls, it seems. Stories that resonate, stories that inspire, stories of ordinary, as told by people of nearly any age, hosted by Heat and Rocket Kid. We have four threads in Ordinary Chaos: 1: Heat talks with a not-famous artist 2: Heat talks with a regular ol‘ not-famous person 3: Heat talks with Rocket Kid, her elementary-aged son 4: Rocket Kid talks with a guest Go to ordinarychaospodcast.com for links, show notes, and more.
Episodes

Thursday Oct 14, 2021
E13: Debra makes social commentary art
Thursday Oct 14, 2021
Thursday Oct 14, 2021
0:30 Content warning
0:59 Debra is a fiber artist who does social commentary art
1:40 What kinds of commentary are you making?
9:10 How did you get started?
13:07 At what point did you start to sell your art?
15:10 You had a show in May. Have you done others before that?
20:34 Of all the things you’ve created, do you have a favorite?
21:43 What’s something you wish people knew about your work?
30:11 What’s your biggest frustration?
32:45 How do you stay moving?
39:15 Where can people go to see or buy your work?
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