
You don’t have to be famous to be interesting. Everyone is interesting. Everyone has a story. I want to draw out the stories of ordinary people to highlight that fame isn’t what makes a person interesting—life is. Ordinary: regular people. Chaos: because that’s how life rolls, it seems. Stories that resonate, stories that inspire, stories of ordinary, as told by people of nearly any age, hosted by Heat and Rocket Kid. We have four threads in Ordinary Chaos: 1: Heat talks with a not-famous artist 2: Heat talks with a regular ol‘ not-famous person 3: Heat talks with Rocket Kid, her elementary-aged son 4: Rocket Kid talks with a guest Go to ordinarychaospodcast.com for links, show notes, and more.
Episodes

Wednesday Sep 28, 2022
S2E12: Dale writes and helps others write
Wednesday Sep 28, 2022
Wednesday Sep 28, 2022
0:56 How did you get started in writing?
5:35 Dale’s first novel
9:45 A fateful ferry ride…
15:16 A layoff and a call from a friend set the next move
21:03 I love that you just jumped in
28:22 “The one I knew I jumped into…”
33:13 Did you do your retreats during COVID?
35:40 People would rather be told what they’re doing right
40:10 In doing the same types of facilitating, how do you keep it fresh for yourself?
42:02 What’s your biggest frustration?
42:53 How do you decide what you’re going to charge?
45:32 Is there anything you wish people understood better about your work or what you do?
46:36 Where can people find your work?
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