
You don’t have to be famous to be interesting. Everyone is interesting. Everyone has a story. I want to draw out the stories of ordinary people to highlight that fame isn’t what makes a person interesting—life is. Ordinary: regular people. Chaos: because that’s how life rolls, it seems. Stories that resonate, stories that inspire, stories of ordinary, as told by people of nearly any age, hosted by Heat and Rocket Kid. We have four threads in Ordinary Chaos: 1: Heat talks with a not-famous artist 2: Heat talks with a regular ol‘ not-famous person 3: Heat talks with Rocket Kid, her elementary-aged son 4: Rocket Kid talks with a guest Go to ordinarychaospodcast.com for links, show notes, and more.
Episodes

Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
S2E5 Trans miniseries: Macey
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
1:20 Macey loves people
1:56 What would your younger self be surprised about your current self?
2:42 What prompted you to transition in your 40s?
6:51 What was the first conversation you had with your wife like?
9:19 What was it like transitioning from a heterosexual marriage to a homosexual marriage?
11:22 I imagine that a lot of your life didn’t change at all…
15:03 Was there a moment you looked in the mirror and went, “Ahhhhhh”?
19:38 Your relationship with your wife was never in question. I’m extrapolating from that that your relationship with your son wasn’t either?
20:57 This pulls other people into the closet with you.
21:47 The two most important people, no problem. What about concentric circles outside of that?
36:25 Every time you meet a new person, there’s the coming out decision. How do you decide to whom, when, how?
40:01 You mentioned a story about a guy from Wyoming…
41:41 What do cis people take for granted?
42:55 Do you get a lot of questions about your genitals or your sex life?
43:50 How do you think this experience might be different if society was less gender-rigid?
48:39 Have you noticed any differences in how people interact with you as a female than as a male?
49:30 Do you expect the non-passableness to change?
51:33 What’s your experience with medical care?
53:01 Is there a question you’re tired of being asked?
54:19 How did you choose your name?
57:48 Do you have any advice for someone contemplating the switch?
59:26 Ending with a question from the Person Next Door series: if you had to be famous, what would it be for?
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